General Discussion #85 – Name that Wife – Rulon Style

Numbers have been added to help keep track. If you know a name, simply list the number and the name and this post will be updated to include the name.

By my count Rulon had 65 wives including his sister Leona who he supposedly married to keep her on the right side in the afterlife.

Rulons wives

 

Let the naming begin.

#1 Kathryn Jessop
#2 Alissa Steed
#3 Ruth Jessop
#4 Norene Nielsen Burk
#5 Sharon Hammond
#6 Mary Zitting Fischer
#7 LaRue Hunter
#8 Naomie Jessop

#9 Ruth Zitting Nielson
#10 Becky Musser
#11 Rose Merilyn Jessop
#12 Melinda Johnson
#13 Ora Bernice Steed
#14 Estella Jessop
#15 Shanna Zitting
#16 Maria Jessop
#17 Debbie Barlow
#18 Paula Jessop
#19 Gladys Jessop
#20 Esther Barlow
#21 Caroline Nielsen
#22 Patricia Keate
#23 Tamara Steed
#24 Roberta Steed
#25 Lorraine Roundy
#26 Charlotte Johnson
#27 Ruth Edna Fisher
#28 Aseneth Jessop
#29 Carla Jessop
#30 Colleen Warner
#31 Winnie Kloe Jessop
#32 Michelle Barlow
#33 Rose Mary Steed
#34 Anna Mae Blackmore
#35 Jennifer Wall
#36 Gloria Roundy
#37 Angela Barlow
#38 Afton Rebekah Johnson
#39 Elizabeth Rohbock
#40 Rosanne Steed
#41 Susan Harker
#42 Loretta Jessop
#43 Zavenda Steed
#44 Virginia Barlow
#45 Merilyn Steed
#46 Leona Steed
#47 Velvet Jessop
#48 Lenora Harker
#49 Alicia Rohbock
#50 Gloria Harker
#51 Jeannie Steed
#52 Mary Fisher
#53
#54 Kathleen Blackmore

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~ by FLDS TEXAS on May 15, 2014.

70 Responses to “General Discussion #85 – Name that Wife – Rulon Style”

  1. #10 Rebecca Wall
    #18 Paula Jessop

  2. Isn’t this dehumanizing to women? Wasn’t it bad enough that the male FLDS leadership did this to women, that this is now being done on a public forum?

    Wise Woman

  3. #22 Patricia Keate
    #45 Merilyn Steed (Warren’s mother)

  4. Isn’t this dehumanizing to women? Wasn’t it bad enough that the male FLDS leadership did this to women, that this is now being done on a public forum?

    Wise Woman

    Anonymous said this on May 15, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    It’s ok they are just plygs.

  5. LOL at the back row center.

    The women on either side of her seem to be quite interested in her posterior.

  6. Really? Is this what this site needs to do to get hits? This is pathetic. You call these women victims and then you turn around and do this?

  7. Here’s an interesting article on more FLDS underhanded behavior:

    http://fox13now.com/2014/05/09/is-there-a-secret-group-inside-the-secretive-flds-church/

    A secret group with in a secret cult, how odd. Seems the fed are on to it.

  8. It appears that there is a second edition of Warren’s book.

  9. Willie Jessop was arrested in Texas. The charges are assault and burglary of a vehicle. If convicted he could face a year in prison and a fine of $1000. Wonder if he could get a cell adjoining one of the other FLDS in jail.

  10. eally? Is this what this site needs to do to get hits? This is pathetic. You call these women victims and then you turn around and do this?
    Anonymous said this on May 18, 2014 at 4:23 PM

    There are a lot of women in the picture who aren’t victims. Mother Merilyn for instance, who I think is the power behind her sons and then the infamous Naomie is for sure not a victim. She was a participant in the rape of Merrianne Jessop.

    And while I believe that some of the others could be considered victims, if they were do rob a bank or be a part of any other crime except polygamy/bigamy then they would be charged and tried on the charges.

  11. It might just be me, but I like to put a face to a name, especially after reading Warren’s Priesthood Records.

  12. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57998339-78/uep-court-trust-jeffs.html.csp

    The Judge apparently denied the Motion to Dismiss so now they have asked the Utah Supreme Court to here the matter.

  13. Recently heard that Nephi Steed Jeffs, Warren’s full brother was sent away from the group and upon leaving said that Lyle wasn’t following Warren’s instructions.

    Could this be the crack that helps split the Warrenites open?

  14. It won’t matter after the State forces a leadership change by handing all the property over to the Jessops.

    The Warrenites can either play along, or become homeless.

  15. The UEP has enriched and still keeps enriching lawyers. When all the legal issues are settled there may not be much left to distribute.

  16. There are a lot of women in the picture who aren’t victims. Mother Merilyn for instance, who I think is the power behind her sons and then the infamous Naomie is for sure not a victim. She was a participant in the rape of Merrianne Jessop.

    And while I believe that some of the others could be considered victims, if they were do rob a bank or be a part of any other crime except polygamy/bigamy then they would be charged and tried on the charges.
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    Tell yourself whatever you need to not feel like a shitty human being. This crap confuses me. I hear all of you complain how the men treat these women like cattle then you go and do the same thing. This is why I stopped talking to you clowns. You are part of the problem not the solution. My personal opinion is the sooner you and people like you die the sooner this world can be a better place.

    How would you feel if It was your face up on the internet and a group of old bitties were trying to call you out? I know if my face was up there and you all were trying to call me out I would be pissed beyond belief. Can you tell me you would feel any different? Never mind don’t answer I’m not sure you are capable of telling the truth anyway. Go F*%k yourself instead.

  17. Plyg Hipster I do t have to tell myself anything to feel better about this crap. I didn’t make the situation, those who continue to help the con men named Warren, Lyle, Isaac and Seth Jeffs are the ones who are creating this crap in the name of a religion that is really a hate group.

    What I don’t understand is why Willie Jessop is allowed to play all the sides against the middle. He helped the Jeffs brothers commit their crimes and the he brokered the agreement between Elissa and Allen Steed and now all of a sudden, because it benefits him, he is using that agreement that he helped broker to get a larger slice of the pie for himself. The fact is that Elissa was forced to marry Allen Steed when she was 14 years old and he forced her to have sex with him. That is rape. Tear up the agreement, send the rapist to jail for life, send Willie to neverneverland and get on with making Elissa whole for the crimes committed against her.

  18. Plyg Hipster I do t have to tell myself anything to feel better about this crap. I didn’t make the situation, those who continue to help the con men named Warren, Lyle, Isaac and Seth Jeffs are the ones who are creating this crap in the name of a religion that is really a hate group.

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    Nice self justification. Let me get this straight. Because you didn’t start the problem is perfectly acceptable to add to it? These women and these people are doing exactly what they were taught to do. You can feed some one bullcrap their whole lives and expect them to spit out roses. This game (its labeled as a game at the top of this page) is sickening. Anyone that participates in this game is no better than the names you mentioned. The only difference is you stand on the different side of a line and tell yourself because I stand on this side it makes it ok. You or anyone else will never be able to add negative to a problem and result in a positive. Physics does not allow it.

    To me it looks like you are all a bunch of Neanderthals swatting at something because it doesn’t meet with your approval.

  19. I get that you don’t like what has been posted but the pure and simple fact of the matter is that every woman in that picture is breaking the law. Just because they haven’t been charged and tried doesn’t mean they aren’t breaking the law. Polygamy is a federal crime regardless of what Utah thinks.

    Would you have the same outrage if Rulon was a drug kingpin and the women were his pushers?

  20. Amos Milton Musser, Sr.
    1948 ~ 2014
    Amos Milton Musser. Sr. passed away on May 26, 2014 of natural causes due to a lingering illness.
    He was born November 29, 1948 to Guy Hill Musser and Laverne Barlow Musser.
    He is survived by his wife, Deborah Olschewski Musser; 15 children; and many brothers, sisters and friends that greatly appreciate him.
    Funeral services will be held Thursday, June 5, 2014 at 1:00 p.m. in the Spilsbury Mortuary, 110 S. Bluff St., St. George, UT. Friends may call on Thursday from 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m., prior to services.
    Arrangements are under the direction of Spilsbury Mortuary, St. George. – See more at: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/saltlaketribune/obituary.aspx?n=amos-milton-musser&pid=171178962&fhid=4515#sthash.UmpYhEVW.dpuf

    Sympathy to to Musser family.

  21. Amos Milton Musser was the husband of Linda Jeffs, daughter of Rulon Timpson and Ruth Jessop. Linda was remarried to Wendell Nielsen in 1999. Linda and Amos’ son Damon Jayson was at the ranch in April 2008. Daughter Linda Musser was one of those on TLC’s Breaking the Faith FLDS show. She would have been young enough to have been taken by CPS during the raid, but wasn’t so she must not have been in Texas. There is also a sibling who is on dialysis. In 2008 she was in Lubbock. Not sure where she is now.

    Not sure how they came up with 15 children. Amos and Linda had 12 and Deborah had 8 with her other husband Perry Marcus Barlow. 4 of the Barlow children are still under 18. None of the Musser children are.

  22. Helen Emma Davenport Chatwin
    “Grandma Chatwin”
    September 12, 1924 – May 27, 2014

    Our beloved and sweet Mother, Grandmother, Great-Grandmother and Great-Great-Grandmother was called home to her Heavenly Father and her awaiting husband on May 27, 2014 surrounded by loved ones. Helen was born on September 12, 1924 in her grandmother’s home in Parowan, Utah to Ida Walker Jones and John Alvin Davenport. Helen was a strong resilient woman full of compassion and empathy for others. She loved music and was a songbird who brightened the lives of her family, friends and everyone whose lives she touched.

    During the great depression, Helen’s family moved from Parowan to many small southern Utah towns before they moved to Payson. While in Payson Helen worked at By’s Café where she met handsome Cleon J Chatwin. On their first date, on June 3, 1943, Cleon took her fishing on Utah Lake; the only thing Cleon caught that day was Helen’s heart. Seven weeks later they were secretly married on July 21, 1943 by a close friend on the banks of Cottonwood Creek in Salt Lake City, Utah. A week later on July 28, 1943, a civil ceremony was performed in her parent’s backyard. Their marriage was later sealed for Time and All Eternity by proxy in the St. George Temple on June 15, 1993.

    After the untimely passing of Cleon in December 1972, Helen focused on their children, raising four out of eight of them on her own. In the early 80’s Helen returned to Genola and lived the rest of her years there. She enjoyed many trips with family members to Hawaii, South Dakota, San Francisco, Oregon, Washington, Mexico, Europe and Israel. Helen enjoyed painting and also had a deep love for music that was instilled in her from her grandfather and she spent many years in choirs and singing groups and also performed solos. She had the voice of an angel. She often would break into song for no reason whatsoever.

    Children were a huge part of Helen’s life, known to many as simply Grandma Chatwin. She adored children and loved working with them. She volunteered over 34 years of service in elementary schools; the last 24 years she was Grandma Chatwin to literally hundreds of children in the Goshen School District’s Foster Grandparents Program, working as a Teacher’s Aide in kindergarten. The family wishes to extend a special thank you to Patsy Barlow and Teona Shepherd for watching over Grandma at school.

    Helen loved the gospel and her Savior. She was active in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and held many positions in the church; her favorite being the Compassionate Service Leader as she enjoyed serving others. She was part of the choir and sang often. Helen loved attending the Temple and treasured the day she was sealed to her darling Cleon.

    Grandma Chatwin is survived by her eight children, Lorin (Mavis), Harvey (Bonnie), Merrill (Kathy), Linda, Charles (Kathy), John (Rozina), Helen (Lorin) Holm, and Laura. She is also survived by her 52 grandchildren, 74 great-grandchildren and 2 great-great grandchildren. She is preceded in death by her parents; her husband, Cleon; her brothers Clynn and Harvey Davenport; and her grandson, Gary Lynn Chatwin.

    Funeral Services will be held on Tuesday, June 3, 2014 at 12:00 noon at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Genola Church), Center & Main Street, Genola Utah. A viewing will be held at the same location on Monday, June 2, 2014 from 6-8 pm and Tuesday from 10:45 to 11:45 am prior to services. Helen will be laid to rest in the Santaquin City Cemetery next to her love, Cleon. Grandma will be deeply missed by all those who loved her and those who have been touched by her sweetness. The family wishes to extend a special thank you to Angie and Marie at Hearts for Hospice for their gentle and compassionate care of Grandma. Flowers may be sent to Brown Family Mortuary, 66 South 300 East, Santaquin. Condolences and memories may be shared with the family at http://www.brownfamilymortuary.com.

    Sympathy to all the families involved.

  23. Helen Emma Davenport Chatwin is the mother of Helen Holm who is married to Lorin Holm.

  24. #14 can’t be Monica Sue Jessop because she was only married to Warren. She wasn’t married to Rulon first.

  25. I get that you don’t like what has been posted but the pure and simple fact of the matter is that every woman in that picture is breaking the law. Just because they haven’t been charged and tried doesn’t mean they aren’t breaking the law. Polygamy is a federal crime regardless of what Utah thinks.

    Your telling me that If I were to break the law it would give you the right to treat me like cattle? Even if it is, why would you want to? I know I can’t stop you from being pricks. Nor to I actually want to. I just want to point out the fact that you remind me of the very people you wish to destroy. What is the difference between a good person or a bad person? The only factor that determines who we are as individuals is how we act. How you are acting on this topic now leads me to believe you are no different then the men and women that I have seen abuse other individuals in Colorado city. You think because its within legal terms that it makes it alright. Still makes you a crappy human being. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ………..its a duck.

  26. Polygamy isn’t a federal crime. Bigamy is illegal in every state, but bigamy isn’t what Mormon Fundamentalists do. Bigamy is what happens if you are legally married and you fraudulently obtain a marriage license and use it to get married if you are already legally married. That is a crime, but it is not a federal crime.

    Mormons fundamentalists do not do that. The plural wives of Mormon fundamentalism have no putative legal marriage. They just call it “marriage.”

    Utah makes polygamous cohabitation illegal, but that part of Utah’s law has been struck down by a federal judge, though some legal technicalities have put the judge’s ruling on hold so it hasn’t yet been appealed to the Tenth Circuit. It will be awhile before we know whether states can criminalize polygamous cohabitation.

  27. Good post, Cal Gal. Very few of Rulon’s wives were likely to be involved in any criminal behaviour.

    When gay marriage is lawful, the sister wives will even be able to marry each other, like they already do in BC, Canada.

    The radical anti-plyg activists got their pound of flesh with the YFZ raid, and should be content with that. They have suffered humiliating defeat after humiliating defeat in their efforts to stamp out polygamy altogether. Their arguments are based entirely on logical fallacy (hyperbole, broad brush, Hasty generalization, Post Hoc, Fake Dichotomy and Bandwagon fallacy, just to name a few), and the Judges aren’t buying it.

    Once the hysteria settled down, the public realised that painting all polygamists with the broad brush of Warren Jeffs was as useless as blaming the LGBT community for his crimes, just because he also liked to boink little boys.

    As far as the picture, Rebecca Musser is the one who put it out there. It wasn’t the result of fldstexas or the Trib digging around. Now that the crustacean has been let out of the bus station, you can’t blame people for being curious and wanting to talk about it.

  28. Plyg Hipster, what have you done to try and rectify the situations that you say you have seen first hand? Obviously nothing. Keeping those who are breaking the law front and center is a way to make those in charge remember that we haven’t forgotten that they have dropped the ball on this. As for being a crappy human being, I think you must be a crappy human being since you are just sitting back and letting the abuse occur.

    Why not take steps to help? Help convince the mothers and fathers who are “repenting” to go back and take control of their family. If everyone who is on the outside looking in got control of their children it would put a real dent in the numbers. Warren might be in prison, but all of those he is still the leader of are also in prison and need to be broken out of jail, the way that Warren can’t break out.

    Cal Gal, polygamy/bigamy is a crime in all 50 states and Utah was forced to renounce it to join the Union. So maybe it isn’t technically a federal crime, the fact that every state has laws against tends to make it lean that way, even if they aren’t enforced.

  29. Anon@7:43 – I’m not sure that the sister-wives will start marrying each other, to my knowledge it has only happened once in Winston’s group and that was to prevent a deportation. There isn’t anyone in Warren’s group in danger of being deported unless it would be those who are Blackmores. I can’t see Warren allowing his “wives” to marry each other in a “gay” marriage. It would go against that which he hates.

    I do agree with you about the picture being a thing of curiosity. I like to be able to put a face with a name when I read something about a particular individual in Warren’s dictations. But I also agree in part with Anon@8:32 about individuals who are leaving their children behind and not going to get them out of harms way being a part of the problem. If all of those who are out or “repenting from afar” would gather up their minor children and take them far away from Lyle and company it would be a big start to helping lessen the numbers involved. One that comes to mind is Wayne Fischer who is the father who allowed Brenda Lei to be married to Warren at age 12. While Brenda Lei is now over 18, she had younger siblings. The same can be said for Rulon Barlow who is the father of Loretta Jane another who was married to Warren at age 12. She also had younger siblings. Both Rulon and Wayne are repenting from afar.

    I applaud men like Lawrence Barlow who has gone back and taken his daughters from the cult. He is trying to rebuild his family. Lorin Holm is another who is doing everything in his power to keep his children from being pawns in the cult game of hide and seek. Maybe we need to stop throwing stones at one another and figure out what we can do to help men and women get their families back together.

  30. Rulon died on 9/8/2002

    On 10/7/2002 Warren started marrying Rulon’s widows. The first group he married was a group of 7:
    Paula Jessop
    Patricia Keate
    Melinda Johnson
    Ora Bernice Steed
    Naomie Jessop
    Tamara Steed
    Kathryn Jessop

    On 10/10/2002 he married 3 more:
    Carla Jane Jessop
    Mary Marie Fischer
    Kathleen Susan Blackmore

    On 10/15/2002 he married an additional 7:
    Lorraine Roundy
    Velvet Jessop
    Asenith Lucille Jessop
    Alissa Steed
    Debra Michelle Barlow
    Shanna Zitting
    Anna Mae Blackmore

    On 11/3/2002 he married Colleen Warner

    On 11/24/2002 he continued marrying his father’s wives in bulk.
    Caroline Nielsen
    Esther Collette Barlow
    Gloria Roundy
    Estella Jessop
    Gladys Elaine Jessop
    WinnieKloe Steed
    Angela Mae Barlow.

    By 11/24/2002 he had married 25 of his father’s wives.

    On 5/6/2003 he married 5 more:
    Roberta Lynn Steed
    Rebecca Fern Steed
    Foneta Maria Jessop
    Jennifer Wall
    Afton Rebekah Johnson

    On 5/16/03 he married Debra Dawn Barlow and then on 7/13/03 he married Susan Alice Bell Harker.

    All total he married 32 of his father’s 66 wives. Nearly 1/2.

  31. By 11/25/03 he had lowered his marriage age to 13 when he married Ida Vilate Jessop. She got pregnant pretty quickly and there is dictation about her having a miscarriage.

    He continued marrying really underage girls with Gloria Anne Steed on 1/9/04 and Veda Lucille Keate on 1/18/04. Loretta Jane Barlow and Permelia Johnson were added on 1/26/04. Midred Marlene (Millie) Blackmore from canada and Annie LaRee Jessop were added on 3/1/04. On 7/22/04 he married his first underage bride in Schleicher County, Tammara Allred. He continued with his underage wives on 4/16/05 with Brenda Lei Fischer. Nancy Joanne Steed was added on 9/4/05. The Canadians Noleta Colleen Blackmore and Alysha Rae Blackmore, both 12, were brought down by their fathers for a 12/16/04 marriage. His final underage marriage was Merrianne Jessop on 7/27/06. She had turned 12 just 24 days before her marriage. She was raped in the temple bed a week later. That rape was recorded and the recording was found in the back of the Escalade that Warren was riding in when he was arrested.

    All total he married 12 girls who were 15 and under and an additional 12 who were 16. He is heard bragging on tape about all of his wives having been given the Ordinance that was used when he raped Merrianne so that one can conclude that he had raped all 24 of these girls before he was caught and sent to prison.

    A link to a picture of Warren and Brenda Lei Fischer
    http://politicsrusprinciple.tumblr.com/image/69745829710

  32. Plyg Hipster, what have you done to try and rectify the situations that you say you have seen first hand? Obviously nothing.
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    How could you possibly know what I have done? I don’t seek fame or credit for what I do. Everyone I help is for them not for me.

    I will tell you what I don’t do. I don’t damage the very people I’m trying to help. I don’t call them rapist and I don’t accuse them of stuff that I have no right to accuse them of. I am not a judge I am not a part of any jury I do not work in law enforcement. Under your own laws you don’t have the right to label anyone for a crime guilty or not and neither do I. If you have proof I welcome you to turn it in to your law enforcement which you hold so high. What you are doing is not only wrong but unconstitutional. You are not above the law and you for damn sure are not the law. Anything stated here can only be an opinion because of this fact. If you are so sure of these women’s guilt why don’t you go get them shoved in prison because that’s what you are so sure will remedy this situation.

    You follow your laws as blindly as these women follow the prophet. If the law does more damage than good yous till follow the law even though the law was designed to protect a civilized society. Doing what is right and what is lawful are sometimes two very different things. This hammer of law will only fill jails and nothing more. It will splinter this group into 50 groups. Eventually (it kind of already is) it will be such a big problem there will be no way to contain it because of people just like you. So have at it Ahab.

  33. Right Ply Hipster, you’re right and everyone else is wrong.

    Get over it already. If you aren’t trying to help then it seems you might be part of the problem.

  34. Bed found in the Temple

    Let’s not forget what the Warrenite FLDS is truly about.

  35. It appears that Willie Jessop will get at least 2 pieces of equipment he is claiming from the YFZ Ranch. Judge Walther also ruled that he and Donovan Stubbs would have to decide at a later date who owned an additional piece of equipment.

  36. Does Steven S Steed ring a bell?

  37. Plyg Hipster,

    Are you from the Centennial Park group? Because you sound like you are. Also, did you intend to insult the bloggers by calling us “old biddies” instead of what you typed – “old bitties” – or are you just a plyg hipster with a breast fetish?

    Ahab the Arab

  38. Warren’s End Game

  39. Let us not forget:
    https://texasflds.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/jeffs-and-his-god-make-recusal-motion.pdf

  40. Judge Linberg has called for those not paying their $100 fee to be evicted.
    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865605155/Judge-Evict-FLDS-families-not-paying-fees.html

  41. Hearing Discloses Developments In Reformation of FLDS Land Trust
    On Friday, a Utah state trial court held a one-and-a-half hour hearing in the state’s 9-year long effort to reform the United Effort Plan Trust. The Trust holds property of the polygamous FLDS Church in the sect’s twin towns of Hilldale, Utah and Colorado City, Ariz. AP and Fox13 report that a number of developments were revealed at the hearing. Judge Denise Lindberg urged the court-appointed trustee to begin evicting residents who have been ignoring the $100-per month housing fee for as long as 7 years. Collectively over $4.18 million in back fees is owed. During the hearing, Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes urged the court to appoint a board to take over redistribution of the 750 homes owned by the Trust. Judge Lindberg said that she has chosen seven people for the board, but will not set it up until fees are being paid so the trust will have a stable source of revenue, and until liability insurance can be obtained for board members. It was also announced that former-FLDS member Willie Jessop has agreed with the court-appointed trustee to cooperate with investigations and litigation in exchange for receiving land. In yet another development, the Arizona Attorney General’s office told the court that it plans to file papers today to dismantle the Hildale/ Colorado City Town Marshal’s Office.

  42. How many of the houses are even occupied by active members at this point?

  43. Utah needs to get on board with this too.http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58076882-78/barlow-flds-marshal-church.html.csp

  44. Anon @1:06, I think there are a lot that are still occupied by Warrenites. Lyle is till in one and Lorin Holm’s other wives are there also. It will be interesting to see how many children end up at the school that is going to open in Hildale this fall.

    As for the Marshall’s office, it is sad that Helaman got a free pass but I am glad that he finally told the truth.

  45. http://fox13now.com/2014/06/16/arizona-ag-seeks-to-dismantle-polygamous-towns-police-force/

    Another article.

  46. More information on what Helaman Barlow admitted in an April deposition. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58076882-78/barlow-flds-marshal-church.html.csp

  47. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogspolygblog/58088420-185/barlow-marshal-marshals-flds.html.csp Excuse me. This is the most recent article, not the one that I just posted.

  48. Uncle Wink, getting sued by the LDS Church:

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58094122-78/church-lds-lawsuit-blackmore.html.csp

    I think he might have a chance win this. The Community of Christ owns the Copyright on the unhyphenated spelling, not the LDS Church. This was decided when they were fighting over the Kirtland Temple, when the LDS was legally declared a splinter group of the RLDS.

    Thoughts?

  49. Interesting

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865605676/Judge-will-narrow-what-is-kept-from-public-in-FLDS-child-bride-lawsuit.html

  50. A while back there was a Canadian boy who died. I can’t remember the details but his name was Vergel Palmer. His mother is Mary Elizabeth Blackmore. Does anyone remember the details or the date?

  51. http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dateline/53005764#53005764

    So this posted by Becky Musser. It’s a very good expose on the FLDS.

  52. Warren Jeffs visitation privileges revoked by Texas prison system.

    SID Number: 08888382 TDCJ Number: 01726705 Name: JEFFS,WARREN STEED Race: W Gender: M DOB: 1955-12-03 Maximum Sentence Date: LIFE SENTENCE CUMULATIVE OFFENSES Current Facility: POWLEDGE Projected Release Date: NOT AVAILABLE Parole Eligibility Date: 2038-07-22 Offender Visitation Eligible: NO The offender is temporarily ineligible for visitation. Please call the offender’s unit for any
    additional information.

    The visitation information is updated once daily during weekdays and multiple times per day
    on visitation days.

  53. This afternoon it has been updated to say YES that he is eligible for visitation.

  54. ” Parole Eligibility Date: 2038-07-22″

    😯

  55. At that time Warren will be 83. I’m not sure if that takes into consideration the fact that his sentences are consecutive.

    Also, only Wendell has been granted parole. Several of the others have been up for parole but none have had it granted.

  56. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58138338-78/jeffs-trial-wall-case.html.csp

  57. http://www.newschannel10.com/story/25931365/new-fundamentalist-mormon-neighbors-cause-concern-for-some-residents-in-area-town

    Not sure if they are Warrenites or WillEites.

  58. Good news for Thomas Vaughn Barlow

    http://www.thespectrum.com/story/news/local/2014/07/02/trespassing-case-dismissed-exiled-flds-member/12123639/

  59. Those in OK are Warrenites. George Barlow is the former mayor and his attorney tried to claim that George Barlow and George Allred weren’t the same person. What a liar he turned out to be.

  60. The State of Utah will regret being involved in the sale of
    properties without allowing the consent of the Heirs of the land.

    This will all come undone

    http://kutv.com/news/top-stories/stories/utah-ag-questions-uep-trust-auction-11948.shtml

  61. http://www.statewideauctionco.com/uep-trust-auction.html

  62. It says the auction was to happen on June 25. Did it happen?

  63. If the auction happened who bought parcel of land? Anybody know?..other-Anon

  64. All of the land in Short Creek will be sold to either the Jessops or CPark.

    UT has a vested interest in forcing the UEP out the hands of the Warrenites, entirely.

    Hence, the move to OK.

  65. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=722347374491075&id=533754683350346

  66. If the FLDS are “OUT” they will say they do not support Warren.

    If they are “IN” they will not say anything when asked their position on Warren or defend him.

    Lorin Barlow is “IN”. And those at the meeting heard Sam’s warning.

    Lorin Barlow was contacted by the Guymon Daily Herald on Wednesday. Although Barlow would not comment on his or his family’s particular religious beliefs, including if he believed Jeffs to be their prophet, Barlow did say he believed Jeffs to be innocent of all charges.
    “I really, at this point, don’t really want to say much about that,” Barlow said of his religion. “I definitely know (Jeffs) is an innocent man who has been put in jail. Improper courts and it was totally illegal. If you look into that case, you will find out all of the witnesses were tampered with. There is so much that put him there and he is very much an innocent man. Arizona dropped the case and dismissed everything, but Utah and Texas picked it up again. They had no evidence against him, there was nothing against him. They fabricated, is what they have done. He is definitely an innocent man in jail.
    “I’d rather not get into that kind of discussion at this point,” he added regarding whether or not he referred to Jeffs as the prophet. “I definitely send my love to him because he is definitely an innocent man.”

  67. Please continue the discussion on General Discussion #86https://texasflds.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/general-discussion-86-yfz-men/

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