At 6:30 PM a jury in Schleicher County found Raymond Merril Jessop GUILTY of sexual assault of a child.
~ by FLDS TEXAS on November 5, 2009.
Posted in The Evidence
*dance dance dance*
texasrattle said this on November 5, 2009 at 6:57 PM
TexasConnie said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Everyone ready, pop the top on the champagne….everyone got their glasses ready? SALUTE!
LadySadie said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:07 PM
texasrattle said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Now I hope the jury will send a message, with their sentencing, that will make the FLDS seriously think, before marrying off child brides again.
C-M said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Halleluiah, halleluiah, halleluiah!!!
The pusillanimous judiciary in neighboring states wrings their collective hands and says, “We can’t prosecute.” But Texas just calmly measures up the target and shoots a bull’s-eye.
Thank God for Texas.
Greetings from New York said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Oh, happy day!!!!
ruthies girl said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:41 PM
What a terrific day ! This will have a chilling effect on the abusers of women and children.
catwhisperer said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:43 PM
One down, 11 to go! Wanna take bets on how many jump bail and hightail it to Mexico?
LadySadie said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:46 PM
GUILTY – Polygamy Links said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Good photos here:
Wish I could be there when Naomie breaks the news to Warren.
Greetings from New York said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Foxnews is now carrying the story
LadySadie said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:51 PM
you mean the Warren with knee pads? LOL
deputydog1 said this on November 5, 2009 at 7:52 PM
I am not drinking champagne tonight, despite my overwhelming joy at this verdict. Every newspaper I’ve looked at leads with the Ft. Hood story. What a terrible, terrible pity. The dead shooter, Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, was a psychiatrist. To imagine someone in the healing professions turned so utterly around is more than my soul can fathom.
So while I’m overjoyed by the verdict, I shan’t be breaking out the bubbly.
Greetings from New York said this on November 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM
GFNY – Me either. Hasan’s not dead, BTW.
If he’s in a civilian hospital, then dies, all I can think of is who has jurisdiction? Thanks, Ron.
Miele said this on November 5, 2009 at 8:37 PM
The Fort Hood shooter is not dead. Just watched the press conference live from Fort Hood. The gunman is hospitalized.
Am also thankful for today’s verdict!
carolfromcarolina said this on November 5, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Sorry Miele for the repeated information; we must have been typing at the same time
carolfromcarolina said this on November 5, 2009 at 8:45 PM
Good NYTimes article on the verdict:
LadySadie said this on November 5, 2009 at 8:53 PM
This is where “Raymond’s Bad Acts” come into play: https://texasflds.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bad-acts.pdf.
The prosecution isn’t allowed to present evidence of general bad character in the guilt phase of a trial, but that evidence is admissible in the penalty phase.
Greetings from New York said this on November 5, 2009 at 8:55 PM
No apology needed,Carolina. What a night.
Miele said this on November 5, 2009 at 8:57 PM
So will Janet have to be reassigned to a new husband or can an incarcerated Raymond still exalt her? I know Warren’s wives are still his wives, but is that just a priviege for the prophet?
Before all is said and done YFZ is going to be littered with nothing but priesthood “widows”.
carolfromcarolina said this on November 5, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Holy CARP!! I left work just after the jury went out…ran some errands, met a friend for dinner and came home to…GUILTY! Texas doesn’t mess around! And it will be interesting to see what the 11 others [awaiting trial] decide to do. Skip, plead out or disappear!
mc1199 said this on November 5, 2009 at 9:14 PM
I imagine Major Hasan regrets not being dead, or he may soon. He now has another chance to seek reconciliation with God. I pray he uses it wisely.
Greetings from New York said this on November 5, 2009 at 9:16 PM
There is a report coming out from one the news services that Major Hasan reported to a cousin that he was being harassed or intimidated in the military. Hmm, I wonder what that was about ? Certainly it is not a justification for violence.
catwhisperer said this on November 5, 2009 at 9:19 PM
And other stories saying he was deeply angry about our involvement in the Afghan and Iraq Wars. That has to be a tough place for a career officer to be, but he didn’t choose a very healthy strategy to disentangle himself.
I am greatly relieved there was only one shooter.
Greetings from New York said this on November 5, 2009 at 9:32 PM
and–yipee!! A lady police officer (or military police)–first responder shot him. He also shot her, but she is going to be ok.
jobo said this on November 5, 2009 at 10:30 PM
I am surprised that they decided so quickly, but I certainly agree with the verdict. I too hope that Raymond gets a stiff sentence, along with all of the other men up for trial when THEY get convicted. I feel a little sorry for Raymond, though. Sounds almost like he’s been offered up as a scapegoat. Oh well, I wonder how long the “high” of being a martyr will last once he’s in prison?
Rebeckah said this on November 5, 2009 at 11:28 PM
The prosecution has a long list of “bad actions” that they will use in the penalty hearing. Based on that and the short deliberation time, I predict a penalty of 15-20 years.
chemist said this on November 6, 2009 at 1:16 AM
One down 11 to go!
This sets a good trend.
Stamp said this on November 6, 2009 at 8:36 AM
I hope they ask the jurors, in light of the FLDS’ willingness to risk that girl’s life, as well as her child’s, in order to protect Jessop from possible prosecution, what exactly they would have done with the body/bodies if things hadn’t worked out well?
That alone should get him the 20.
Boots said this on November 6, 2009 at 9:01 AM
You got it, Boots!
Attila the Nun said this on November 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Carol from Carolina,
I think they have a problem to solve first, in that they are not getting directions from their prophet in jail and they do not have a method to replace him. So there is no one to release the women from their marriage vows. But I think the pressure for those not in jail to have more wives will eventually cause them to find a solution and thus a new leader(s).
I would guess that there would be a split into two groups, one that wants to continue as before (perhaps Willie the Thug), one that wants a counsel of elders to prevent them from getting into this situation again and leaning towards moderation and maintaining a low profile in the news.
Betty said this on November 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM
I can’t think what was in their vacuous minds to move their crime operation to Texas. Maybe thought Texans were dumber than themselves, and more easily bullied into “conforming”? Wal don’t that just masticate the alfalfa.
Attila the Nun said this on November 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Hmmm. Previously the “method” to replace a prophet is basically whoever craves the power the most shoves everybody else aside using whatever methods work the best. It’s not like they’re a democracy or anything like that.
Anon E Mouse said this on November 6, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Well I have waited to read all the comments here to see if Bill Medvecky’s claim that the antiWarrenites and Kindred Spirits are out for bloodlust, genocide and unlawful mob control of the convicted?
Geee, Bill Medvecky seems your wrong, again, about Kindred Spirits wanting a ‘Final Solution’ for Raymond and his fiends, looks more like the regular Law & Order crowd you so abhor. How many more sexual assault convictions Bill before you drop your charade that you are trying to protect the children, seems like the teen age females are ‘fair game’ to you and your merry sexual abuser cohorts.
cajIM said this on November 6, 2009 at 12:49 PM
The FLDS are a textbook example of the characteristics of Groupthink outlined by Irving Janis:
1. Illusions of invulnerability which encourage risk taking;
2. Suppressing any ideas that challenge the group’s assumptions;
3. Unquestioned belief in their own morality;
4. Stereotyping and demonizing outsiders;
5. Direct pressure to conform;
6. Self censorship of ideas;
7. Illusions of unanimity through silence;
8. Self-appointed ‘mind guards’ who edit reality for the members.
And the consequences he saw stemming from their excessive need for consensus:
1. Incomplete survey of alternatives;
2. Incomplete survey of objectives;
3. Failure to examine risks;
4. Failure to reevaluate previously-rejected alternatives;
5. Poor information search;
6. Selection bias in collecting information;
7. No contingency plans.
I actually think they will fall farther and faster than anyone expected, because the rank-and-file are completely deindividuated and have no personal resources with which to build a new community.
Greetings from New York said this on November 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM
CAJim, see characteristics of groupthink, above. Bill is creating his own little cult, “Son of FLDS” and one of his strategies is to demonize normal thinking. He has an amazing posse of social misfits; the sad thing is that they take him seriously.
Greetings from New York said this on November 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM
The good thing is that BM has a realtively small number of regular posters.
chemist said this on November 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM
I’m amazed at comments on his blog that indicate people basically are opposed to Age of Consent laws at all, as if they were a revocation of the rights of a child to choose to be sexually exploited. Scary.
Betty said this on November 6, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Yeah, sounds like ole dog duane’s thinking. It is not a crime in lower slobvolia so it should not be a crime in Texas.
ale wife said this on November 6, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Is it true what I’ve read, that a least a couple of madpudpucky’s supporters say they have bailed on him?
Attila the Nun said this on November 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM
I’m not sure and haven’t read what you’ve read, but it seems like a pretty regular crew over there with BM.
Ron in Houston said this on November 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Deb Lee or Cupcake said she would not be posting anymore. Not because she does not like Bile M. She does not like the KS bigots and haters.
chemist said this on November 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM
GFNY thanks for the bullet points and summary seems to fit very closely and it’s scary to think BileM is the monkey organ grinder (pun intended). Poor Bill, his mind is a scary place to visit and I am glad I don’t have to live there!
Is Bill going to create any kind of tutorial module for Penal Living, how to survive in a dog eat dog environment or survival guide for sexual offenders for fun and prophet? You know kinda of a Incarceration ‘for Dummies’. He has years of living behind bars, he can mission train the Grand Jury indictee’s as they get convicted, like a newly promoted FLDS Deacon for Dimwits.
cajIM said this on November 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Here’s a song for Raymond Jessop-this is your future,welcome to Texas, enjoy that East Texas special white bus. Your future at Warden Lanny’s prison farm.
East Texas dirt is red
and it’s hard
and there doesn’t seem to be an end
down on Lanny’s farm.
It’s a damned hard row to hoe
down on Lanny’s farm.
East Texas sunsets bleed
like your hands
like the broken hearts that wait back home
years from Lanny’s farm.
Only dreams will let you go
down on Lanny’s farm. In fields of cane and cotton your heart cries for a rose but you can’t find one. And you feel all but forgotten sweating in the sun in the heat where no wind blows when you remember one down on Lanny’s farm.
East Texas specials run
and they’re full
and they empty at the line’s dead-end
down on Lanny’s farm.
All your baggage is your soul
down on Lanny’s Farm
East Texas dirt is red
like your eyes
like the embers of a dying fire
down on Lanny’s farm
Will a spark live when you go?
down on Lanny’s farm In fields of cane and cotton your heart cries for a rose but you can’t find one. And you feel all but forgotten sweating in the sun in the heat where no wind blows down on Lanny’s farm. Down on Lanny’s Farm
Warden Lanny Steele,Texas Dept. of Corrections
A Texan said this on November 6, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Betty: I’m amazed at comments on his blog that indicate people basically are opposed to Age of Consent laws at all, as if they were a revocation of the rights of a child to choose to be sexually exploited. Scary.
Isn’t that what NAMBLA preaches? It’s pure evil.
Anon E Mouse said this on November 7, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Raymond Jessop needs a long prison term to stop his own behavior and make it clear that Texas isn’t going to ignore child sexual abuse. At the same time, he is the product of an abusive system and had very little opportunity for normalcy.
His warped upbringing is the only argument he could raise in support of a lesser sentence. But it is the one argument he can’t use. His lawyers have to be very frustrated right now.
(Don’t read too much into his grin after sentencing. It could have been a ‘primate bared-teeth display’ over which he had no control. This is behavior we share with our primate cousins, in which a grin expresses appeasement or submission. Many humans do this under stress; I am one of them.)
Greetings from New York said this on November 7, 2009 at 7:27 AM
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